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Suggestions

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 1:08 pm
by bittercrash
As there is a special 'new features' section in the forum, I decided to post it here.


1. I'd love a POP3-mailchecker as a plugin, with sender and subject in the notification balloon, clickable (to open a preview or your mail client).
I've seen something similar in another rss-newsfeeder, called wTicker.

2. Every link in the notification balloons could be clickable and take you directly to the article.

3. As a non-programmer, I'd love to see an easier step-by-step wizard to write plugins myself.

4. Generally, anything that enhances the use and the interactivity of the notification balloons, cuz I love those things. They're very handy for all sorts of notifications, online or system or program (Winamp or QCD artist/song...)

Re: Suggestions

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 1:34 pm
by support
bittercrash wrote:1. I'd love a POP3-mailchecker as a plugin, with sender and subject in the notification balloon, clickable (to open a preview or your mail client).
I've seen something similar in another rss-newsfeeder, called wTicker.


This is such a cool idea! I'll add it to my ever-expanding to-do list :-) Actually, one of the team members is looking at writing something that does this for Outlook...

bittercrash wrote:2. Every link in the notification balloons could be clickable and take you directly to the article.


I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you talking about clicking on individual items for consolidated notification balloons? This is on the to-do list.

bittercrash wrote:3. As a non-programmer, I'd love to see an easier step-by-step wizard to write plugins myself.


This is a bit tricky. Since plugins are so generic and powerful, it's impossible to write a wizard to generate one. For example, how would you see it working? What sort of things would you want to use plugins for, btw?

bittercrash wrote:4. Generally, anything that enhances the use and the interactivity of the notification balloons, cuz I love those things. They're very handy for all sorts of notifications, online or system or program (Winamp or QCD artist/song...)


Yep. I really like those little suckers as well :-)

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 4:46 pm
by bittercrash
2 out of 4 of my suggestions are already on the to-do-list: pop3-checker and clicking on individual items in consolidated notifications.
Nice. Looking forward to those:)

About the plugins:
I tried to open the file SamplePythonChannel.py via New Channel (as explained in the help file), and after clicking Next, I got: No application is registered for this file type: .py. ??

Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2003 9:44 pm
by support
bittercrash wrote:About the plugins:
I tried to open the file SamplePythonChannel.py via New Channel (as explained in the help file), and after clicking Next, I got: No application is registered for this file type: .py. ??


Files that end in .py are programs written in a programming language called Python. To run these, you need to have Python installed. You can get it from http://www.python.org/. You also need to install some stuff that lets Python do Windows stuff: http://www.python.org/windows/win32/

If you are interested in plugins, it's probably worth installing this since most of the plugins we will be putting out will be in Python.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2003 8:49 am
by bittercrash
Ah right...
But that's what I actually meant by "a wizard-like, simpler way" of handling/configuring plugins for a non-programmer (like myself).

For rss-feeds: in Klipfolio you open an existing .klip file, alter some lines (title, url,...), save it under a new name, and... there's your NEW KLIP:) Open and run in Klipfolio just like any other.

I think in Awasu it's somewhat more complicated.

For instance: I'm interested in making a channel plugin to monitor a website with no rss-feed. How do I practically go about in setting one of these up?

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2003 8:57 am
by support
bittercrash wrote:For rss-feeds: in Klipfolio you open an existing .klip file, alter some lines (title, url,...), save it under a new name, and... there's your NEW KLIP:) Open and run in Klipfolio just like any other.

I think in Awasu it's somewhat more complicated.


I've run Serence but haven't tried modifying klips like this. However, you will still be limited to the content that they push out. Awasu's plugins let you monitor anything at all but it takes a bit more work. With power comes complexity :-)

bittercrash wrote:For instance: I'm interested in making a channel plugin to monitor a website with no rss-feed. How do I practically go about in setting one of these up?


One of the plugins we want to write is something that monitors a web page and tells you when it has changed. It won't tell you anything about the content, just that it has changed. Another one on the list will be smarter and try to extract information from the page but that's a bit more complicated.

In the short term, give myrss.com a go. They will do this kind of thing for you. Otherwise send me the details of the site you want to watch and I'll see what I can do.

Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2003 9:23 am
by bittercrash
support wrote:With power comes complexity :-)


Well said :lol:

Python

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2003 10:00 pm
by rlmrdl
support wrote:If you are interested in plugins, it's probably worth installing this since most of the plugins we will be putting out will be in Python.


How about bundling Python with the reader as some programmes do with Java, the simpler it is for us bunnies to install, the better the uptake will be.

Re: Python

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2003 10:35 pm
by support
rlmrdl wrote:How about bundling Python with the reader as some programmes do with Java, the simpler it is for us bunnies to install, the better the uptake will be.


Python is quite unfortunately a bit large and the Awasu download is already bigger than I would like it to be.

It is possible to compile Python scripts so that they will run stand-alone and this is the route we will probably be taking.